And all in one IDs are coming. With an all in one ID, what prevents the government from shutting you down from doing anything at all from the flick of a switch?
@coolboymew@shitposter.club@blaaablaaaa@hermit.cafe@Moon@shitposter.club Yeah, China is like that. But if people have been lead to thinking that a city planing concept about being able to walk for essential stuff would lead to the invasive surveillance state that is China, that's a huge leap and indicates massive brainworms that have been planted by someone.
@coolboymew@blaaablaaaa@ignaloidas@Moon consider the practical consideration of what happens when there's only one such amenity near you and your travel options to competition are limited by municipal design. Its not hard to conclude what it does prices or service when there's only one supermarket in walking distance that is allowed by zoning restrictions to make room for x other amenities. So on top of the obvious concerns about how this can be easily used to softly track and "manage" peoples behavior, this type of design passively centralizes goods and services in a way that in practice screws people over.
@ignaloidas@Moon@blaaablaaaa You mean the government that probably most definitively bombed the German pipeline? The government that are getting into yet more gay wars that aren't going to benefit the public but lining up their pockets? The government that, what was it already, injected some diseased unto some black population like 50 years+ ago?, etc, etc, etc, etc
Also, the government that just keeps lying in your face, yesterday, today and in the future?
Like legitimately, it weirds me out how fucking worried you americans are about this kind of bullshit. Like, how much shit did your government had to do to you for you to be broken like this?
@ignaloidas@coolboymew@blaaablaaaa seriously no disrespect but I honestly don't know how people can't be worried about "crazy" shit at any point post-9/11, but especially after 2020.
> how much shit did your government had to do to you for you to be broken like this?
@Moon@shitposter.club@coolboymew@shitposter.club@blaaablaaaa@hermit.cafe Alright, so then if we establish that your govenrnment is a huge pile of trash that is hostile to it's own people, then why do you worry about a specific policy? As I already said, whatever way of doing things you do, the thing that matters the most and determines how things will go is the government, and if your government is shit, whatever they do it'll be shit.
So go fight the government, not some specific policy.
@coolboymew@ciel@blaaablaaaa@ignaloidas@Moon BurnLootMurder propaganda has spread to European countries with no colonial history (except as victims of colonialism) and barely any black people. And don't get me started on gender ideology....
America's cultural pollution does far more global damage than its environmental pollution.
And of course, because it's the ideology du jour, they were given free reign to do whatever the fuck they wanted while all counter protesters were "muh alt-right"
@coolboymew@blaaablaaaa@ignaloidas@Moon no it isnt. you leafs will keep shooting eachother with crossbows and euthenizing ur undesireables. cascadia should annex BC and greater idaho should take the berta oil wells and the fr*nch can take the rest
@ignaloidas things like killing people who wanted to self-sustain, regardless of pretext, was a start. (Not American-born but I live there and at least understand the angle). @Moon@coolboymew@blaaablaaaa
@ignaloidas@Moon@coolboymew@blaaablaaaa In Britain, we have "Oxford County Council have planned a journey restriction trial for 2024, as part of the 15 minute cities scheme." We know they have makeshift planters on certain roads, blocking car entry to them which has likely cost lives because it makes it harder for public health services to know where they are. In Australia, it gets even worse because you have machines which track who is in a park, how many times the BBQ's or toilets have been used... if China isn't a good indication then what do you make of Britain and Australia?
@sim@ignaloidas@Moon@blaaablaaaa yeah I've seen the planters thing on Lotus Eaters. Some of them have a soft blocker that apparently people are constantly vandalizing
@coolboymew@Moon@blaaablaaaa@ignaloidas The people in those areas don't want them but the council aren't listening, not even to the public health services where having to go to the other side of the street costs lives. The council never seems to listen to the people, they carry on with their pet projects and trials anyway. I remember when cycle lanes basically took up an entire car lane as a cycle trial too. On busy roads, apparently this is supposed to encourage people to cycle more. I hate what these people have done.
@sim@Moon@blaaablaaaa@ignaloidas The idiots over here in more or less "backstreets" have forced sidewalks on streets where everyone fucking park in the street Over here, we can have a shitload of snow, randomly. And here we go, the sidewalks are often a nightmare to walk on in the morning to go to work because they're not properly shovelled, and now that I have to walk on the street again, there's way less space and it's now 5 times as dangerous
@coolboymew@ciel@Moon@blaaablaaaa@ignaloidas The people in charge of America don't like it when other governments and countries decide to go their own way. We have wars over this shit, threats over trade. America also exports its culture and values all around the world, under liberal democracy. But we're supposed to stop pretending to be Americans? I wish...
@galena@blaaablaaaa@ignaloidas@coolboymew@Moon I think the problem is "15-minute city" means different things to different people. The original idea seemed to have been non-coercive. But what happened in Oxford was not.
@coolboymew@ignaloidas@blaaablaaaa@Moon Tesla and Mercedes are both looking at implementing killswitches for if you miss a car payment, so it's much closer than you think
@mrsaturday@coolboymew@blaaablaaaa@ignaloidas incidentally there is a bunch of noise about a kill switch being mandated by 2026 in a bill. I did a deep dive and i can't find anything in the bill or any circumstantial evidence that what was proposed (an "erratic driving" monitor that will slow your car to a stop) will _require_ any _remote_ disabling mechanism. if a manufacturer chooses to do this centrally and remotely send a shutoff signal obviously police can and will abuse it. but it's not mandated and all the articles about it being a kill switch mandate are wrong.
@mrsaturday@blaaablaaaa@coolboymew@ignaloidas this has nothing directly to do with mrsaturday's note that some manufacturers are definitely building a kill switch for non-payment which obviously will immediately be abused by police.
@coolboymew@blaaablaaaa@ignaloidas@mrsaturday during the canada trucker protest there was a parallel attempt at a protest in washington, dc. a guy rented a truck to participate (kind of stupid but whatever) and while he was en route somehow the rental company found out where he was going and they remotely deactivated it.
@ignaloidas@coolboymew@Moon@blaaablaaaa America is and has been a far bigger and worse surveillance state then china could ever even dream up. They just poisned an entire town and the entirety of the news media was focused on ballons launched by US companies.
Yeah in a lot of ways it is because all of the consequences are hidden or implied. There is no transparency, the rules are constantly changing, not to mention the retroactive consequences of what used to be acceptable.
@blaaablaaaa@ignaloidas@Moon@coolboymew There is zero accountability for government when the fuck up. Pete buttplug get suck more an cockas ohio is poisoned and he blames trump. These people are petty tyrants and feel zero obligation to the american people. In the 2 years biden has been in office hes dont more for ukraine than he has a single american and the media packed with former intel agents claps loke retarded seals.