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@theorytoe @LordMordred
I never understood why people get so passionately concerned about Linux's popularity on the desktop. I don't care what other people do with their computers, thats weird.
My biggest complaint about Linux though is that the community is constantly reinventing the wheel and adding too many wonky elements to the stack. Now you have this wayland cult trying to get rid of Xorg and that pisses me offf.
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@m0xEE @LordMordred @theorytoe
I need Dem in this thread, he gets this cc @dcc
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@m0xEE @theorytoe @LordMordred
Xorg is not "ancient shit from 20 years ago" that's ludicris, that's like saying the Linux kernel is ancient shit from 20 years ago (which it is, but you and I know that this statement is silly because of the active development going on). Now yes, Xorg is finished, it's not getting alot of new features because it doesn't need them. More or less bugfixes and security audits are whats going on and that is more important than NEW FUCKING FEATURES.
The wayland cult is being driven by reddit-tier consooomers with peabrain takes on tech. They do want distros to basically cutoff xorg, which makes me wonder if this isn't a glowop. What if Gayland is the perfect FED trojan horse into Linux machines. Why the sudden big push to create a shitty and inferior display server, that is far from complete, the norm in Linux distros out of the box setups.
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@gnarley_boot
> Now you have this wayland cult trying to get rid of Xorg and that pisses me offf.
I must be too deep underground and I only see the opposite end of it: "OMG, let's use this ancient shit from 20 years ago! They are trying to force this new thing upon us, but we won't budge!"
Who the fuck is forcing anything on them? I have no idea! Developers only want to work on the Wayland thing? It's their choice, they aren't obliged to support what you want. Want something else? Fork it and add support for whatever you want, or support financially those who are willing to step up 🤷
I wanted to solve the screen tearing happening when scrolling through long pages in Firefox and Wayland did it. I also have very old computers, which have hardware incapable of using Wayland, and I use Xorg on the just fine. No one ever forced either on me. Unlike with Windows and Mac OS X, when you have to upgrade just for your system to remain secure, and when it comes with shit you don't like, you have to accept it, whether you like it or not.
Mozilla is attempting to force this WebP shit on me so I have rolled back the change, problem solved. I have to undo this every time they update, this is the price I gave to pay for my choice.
Most people don't want to pay any price, and expect someone else to solve it for them: the state, upstream software developers and whatnots. Well, surprise, sometimes this feedback mechanism gets broken, no one is interested in your opinion and just whining won't work — you have to step up and invest your own time and money into it, most are simply not prepared for it.
@theorytoe @LordMordred
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@gnarley_boot @theorytoe @m0xEE @LordMordred Its quite simple, there is no benefit to run wayshit with all the downsides.
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