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1. EscapeVelocity (escapevelo@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:41:44 JST EscapeVelocity
   What are the Top 3 iconic laptops on the 2010s?
   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:41:38 JST 

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     @Forestofenchantment @PurpCat @EscapeVelo Was Blackberry ever mainstream to begin with? The big three in the 00s I remember were Nokia, Siemens and Sony Ericsson. Samsung and LG were also around as well as some lesser brands like Sagem and Alcatel, but those I think oriented towards budget market and didn't have as much of a robust ecosystem.
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:41:39 JST Pawlicker

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     @Forestofenchantment @EscapeVelo i think the problem with 2010s laptops is aside from the surface, macbook lines, etc, there wasn't anything "different" that normies had en masse. It was really when laptops began to be cookie cutter design wise, and the Windows 10 era rules didn't help.
   • Forest of Enchantment (forestofenchantment@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:41:39 JST Forest of Enchantment

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     @PurpCat @EscapeVelo Same thing happened with mobile handsets (Don't call them smartphones, that's dumb). 2000s had crazy models galore, but once Blackberry and Nokia gave up. You had no choice in cool and unique designs and features from mainstream manufactures. If you want something kewl, you need to go to an obscure company.
     But at least handsets still have models that do something different. Laptops aren't as fortunate. Besides the Framework line, what laptop manufactures are doing something different?
     The scourge of globohomo and complacency.
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:41:40 JST Pawlicker

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     @Forestofenchantment @EscapeVelo mate works fine on it and windows 10 kinda too.
   • Forest of Enchantment (forestofenchantment@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:41:41 JST Forest of Enchantment

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     @PurpCat @EscapeVelo x220 is def going to be viewed as an autist laptop from the 2010s. Sandy Bridge CPUs really can't do much these days. If you're using an x220 then tiling window managers or XFCE are mandatory. Tried Gnome on one once and it wasn't fun.
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:41:42 JST Pawlicker

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     @Forestofenchantment @EscapeVelo x220 was early 2010s and then autists online used them later
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:41:43 JST Pawlicker

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     @EscapeVelo x220, random MacBook, random HP elitebooks
   • Forest of Enchantment (forestofenchantment@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:41:43 JST Forest of Enchantment

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     @PurpCat @EscapeVelo I associate the X220 and pre-Lenovo Thinkpads with the 2000s, not the 2010s. The Carbon line is what businesses bought in bulk in the 2010s.
   • Forest of Enchantment (forestofenchantment@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:46:50 JST Forest of Enchantment

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     @mint @PurpCat @EscapeVelo Dunno, too young to have used a handset in the 2000s. Making assumptions here. But from a cursory glance, handsets back then were much more varied between manufactures.
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   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:48:29 JST 

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     @PurpCat @Forestofenchantment @EscapeVelo The thinness trend can't die off soon enough. Just making something that has modern specs, good I/O and some upgradability (like, you know, pretty much every single laptop that was released before AIDS hippie introduced macbook Air) while not being overpriced to hell would already be a huge improvement.
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:48:30 JST Pawlicker

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     @Forestofenchantment @EscapeVelo >what laptop manufactures are doing something different?
     
     they will for a one off model that sells like dogshit, the only ones I can think of are the ARM ones.
   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:51:08 JST 

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     @eidolon @Forestofenchantment @PurpCat @EscapeVelo They weren't as much of a thing here, I guess, mostly taking the same niche as WinMo PDAs being targeted at businessmen and other VIPs.
   • ㅤ (eidolon@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:51:09 JST ㅤ

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     @mint @Forestofenchantment @PurpCat @EscapeVelo blackberry had the largest market share up until 2010 I think
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:51:53 JST Pawlicker

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     @mint @Forestofenchantment @EscapeVelo being easy to repair too.
     
     Some newer laptops have screens as assemblies because they're in so damn tight and use shit like tape to hold the screen in (Lenovo uses screen tape).
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   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:54:34 JST Pawlicker

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     @Forestofenchantment @mint @EscapeVelo the 2000s cell phone market in a nutshell: where you could buy a Blackberry with a low speed data radio, but it's got that nextel chirp in it complete with the chirp button.
   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:54:34 JST 

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     @PurpCat @Forestofenchantment @EscapeVelo E72 is the common man's blackberry.
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   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:55:15 JST Pawlicker

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     @mint @Forestofenchantment @eidolon @EscapeVelo blackberries were one of the first brands to shill security and is probably why Android phones chased that dragon.
     
     if you get an old one and it's passworded, aside from doing security checks at each boot those phones were some of the first to do a wipe after several failed password attempts. But because there was FRP law yet, that wasn't a thing. The idea was protecting your data from theft before protecting the phone from theft because in the 00s Tyrone wasn't stealing your phone to pawn for Fentanyl money.
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   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:56:53 JST Pawlicker

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     @mint @Forestofenchantment @EscapeVelo in America it 100% was. Hence Obama having one being a famous thing and "national security concern" for a while (that nobody took seriously because he's in the "inner circle" if you know what I mean)
     https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna28780205
     https://www.theverge.com/2016/6/11/11910306/obama-upgrades-from-blackberry
     
     But then again, the American mobile phone market and what was mainstream was "radically" different than what you see in Russia. See: IDEN phones (vid related, a cell network made by the radio part of Motorola)
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   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 08:02:35 JST 

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     @PurpCat @Forestofenchantment @EscapeVelo Russian market was more or less the same as European one, with an added bonus of no carrier locks and later two-SIM models.
   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 08:06:08 JST 

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     @Forestofenchantment @PurpCat @EscapeVelo >what is j2me
   • Forest of Enchantment (forestofenchantment@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 08:06:09 JST Forest of Enchantment

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     @mint @PurpCat @EscapeVelo Chonky phones with small screens are comfy. The limitations force them to be exclusively utilitarian. No PSP emulation here, only Tetris and SMS!
   • Forest of Enchantment (forestofenchantment@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 08:12:29 JST Forest of Enchantment

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     @mint @PurpCat @EscapeVelo Java puzzle games can't compare to emulation on modern handsets.
   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 08:12:29 JST 

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     @Forestofenchantment @PurpCat @EscapeVelo Well yeah, but it wasn't just limited to puzzles. Like my first playthrough of Sonic was on officially licensed Gameloft port for phones. Plus NES/gameboy emulation runs just about anywherez including this Java. Also Opera Mini and countless WAP sites, chats and forums.
   • m0xEE (m0xee@breloma.m0xee.net)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 17:06:28 JST m0xEE

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     @mint @Forestofenchantment @PurpCat @eidolon @EscapeVelo
     AFAIR they had to be certified to be legally sold in Russia, but they weren't. Most expats still had Blackberries they brought with them.
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   • lauralt (lauralt@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 17:07:13 JST lauralt

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     @mint @PurpCat @EscapeVelo @Forestofenchantment
     
     If the trend towards SoC arm laptops continues, there might come a point where they are both upgradeable and thin. Well, as in you will be able to swap the SoC with a newer one and keep everything else.
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   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 17:07:30 JST Pawlicker

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     @lauralt @Forestofenchantment @EscapeVelo @mint just like with EVs correcting the flaws of old cars like being somewhat repairable, you just know ARM SoCs won't be socketed except in giga high end shit, and I did play around with an ARM server board where it was soldered anyhow before
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     @lauralt @EscapeVelo @Forestofenchantment @mint but tbh you could see this back in the day with PPC, MIPS, Alpha, and Itanium windows boxes. Every CPU vendor seemingly wanted more control than Intel had over x86 boards and platforms back in the day and even Intel tried this with IA64 (which on one hand was designed to kill AMD and it failed badly).
     
     Itanium was the EV of 2000s computing.
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   • lauralt (lauralt@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 17:07:59 JST lauralt

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     @PurpCat @Forestofenchantment @EscapeVelo @mint
     
     Maybe, but there's already some standardization with the raspi compute modules and then there are the various firms manufacturing, overpriced, but still standardized carrier boards for nxp based modules.
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