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sidereanuncia I shall never find peace. Also, for what its worth, there’s absolutely o reason to believe that the curvature of Middle Earth s the same s that of Earth. sindri2 There's no evidence that Middle Earth curves. solwardenclyffe Yeah there is. The Silmarilion states that the world was curved after the fall of Numenor (1 believe), preventing access to Valinor. But Elves (among others) can travel the straight path across it So middle earth is round, but not for Elves because magic. sindri2 So watt, the reason he can see that far is because Elves just have the abilty to ignore the curve of the earth? That's awesome. t also means that no matter how good your optics got, you would always want eff eyes manning the spyglass because they can see arbitrarly far while everybody else is limited by this orizon’ bulshit