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1. tallship (tallship@public.mitra.social)'s status on Monday, 24-Apr-2023 02:42:57 JST tallship

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   @RyunoKi @forgejo

   One can redact, especially since Loïc Dachary will need to have regular GPL so his twice failed GNA can effectively embed proprietary code into the Forĝejo flavor he intends to run for his hosting service.

   You see, if it's AGPL3 - which Forĝejo is and has been since 15 April following a duly held election - then he would have to make available any changes to that code on the hosted service to anyone that asks... Such is the reason for the AGPL itself, because SaaS providers must make the modifications to any hosted AGPL daemons available on demand, while you don't have to do that with plain old GPL code (only the code you distribute after you modify it).

   I suspect this is why Loïc Dachary artificially extended the adoption of any Copyleft license.

   After his GNA was a miserable failure (twice, after trying to carry Savannah to that domain name after the leadership itself of the FSF initially had to wrest control away from him), first, with a Savannah clone followed by an unsuccessful attempt to provide hosting services for devs using Gitea, he's turned now to try and give it a go with Forĝejo - so from a hosting provider's perspective it's very convenient to modify the code and not have to reveal it make available for inspection any of it.

   So he bowed out the Forĝejo project after half a dozen active community members left in disgust, (at least) one founding member after promising a salary and then performing a rug pull (his first offer to resign in disgrace after being called to the carpet for that transgression).

   Finally, after mishandling the move to Copyleft and dragging it asking for over three months he left there project and community completely. Perhaps he was surprised that an orderly affect for rotation of the organization's 🗝️ keys 🔐 with business carrying on as usual, getting underway without him or the infrastructure he had deployed that wasn't even community controlled (since taken offline and replaced) , he returned, after a day and a half...

   His org admin/owner privs still had not yet been rescinded - at this point her literally claimed he was, himself, going to reboot the community as he saw fit, and usurped and gutted the community status quo, reshaping governance and rules to suit himself... The parallel to that same type of usurpation by general Pinochet just a couple of days after the President of Chile promoted him to commander of all the armed forces -subsequently deposed and replaced with a Junta by Pinochet... was... astounding.

   Like I said, one can redact - but you cannot erase. You cannot erase any of these truths as they are all archived... Including the real reasons why Loïc Dachary's wiki pages were removed, as per the Wikimedia editors who state why, and not simply as Loïc Dachary stated... But that's a really embarrassing topic for another time, not particularly pertinent today.

   One can redact https://archive.is/7v7Ax

   Butt you can't erase. Archives of all of Loïc Dachary's antics are archived and screenshotted in convenient redundancy.

   This is all so very unfortunate, because Forĝejo is otherwise a good thing, save for the damage to good people and then project itself in his destructive wake.