Notices by mist (ai@cawfee.club), page 7
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mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 29-Apr-2023 19:33:58 JST 
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@gav @MercurialBlack @hidden @roboneko
Agreed (and some days I really really really empathize with them) -
mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 29-Apr-2023 17:07:00 JST
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@hidden @MercurialBlack @gav We can't escape the medical connotations of these roots. It doesn't mean the same thing if I say "your posts are on fire" versus "you have post-itis."
As far as I can tell, the medical profession uses three criteria to determine whether something is a problem:
1. It is abnormal (in a statistical sense).
2. It prevents you from meeting a "baseline" standard of living.
3. It differs from what you consciously want for yourself, in a way that causes discomfort.
So someone might be diagnosed with arachnophobia if (1) they fear spiders a lot more than people on average (the DSM makes sure to mention the "sociocultural context"), (2) their fear prevents them from engaging on normal life (the DSM calls it "social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning), and (3) they say to their doctor, "I really wish I didn't fear spiders as much."
We can't escape these three meanings when we use "homophobic" or "transphobic" in a non-medical context. Moreover, the rhetorical *purpose* of these words is to characterize anti-homosexual or anti-transgender attitudes as abnormal, that is, "pathological." The users of these words *want* to draw on the medical connotation. "You're homophobic, so there's something wrong with you."
However, we are now in a cultural mood which says that people should never be blamed for their pathologies. Thus, casting anti-homosexuality as a "phobia" absolves the homophobic person of responsibility. With this in mind, the rhetorical purpose of using "misia" is obvious. "They hate us, they want us dead, and they have no good reason - such as overwhelming fear - for being that way." When I think of a "misogynist," I don't think of someone who is afraid of women, or who has any one particular reason for abusing women.
But there are also medical disorders which use the "misia" root. I consider myself to have mild misophonia. Some annoying sounds fill me with rage, (1) much more than for most people, (2) in a way that often keeps me from getting work done or enjoying life, and (3) I wish I could be less sensitive to sound. Based on introspection, however, I think that the worldview of a homophobic / transphobic / xenophobic / etc person is closer to a "phobic" disorder than a "misic" one.
My personal opinion is that most linguistic inventions which are driven by politics or rhetoric are bad. A new made-up word becomes another shibboleth for purity tests. The "misia" suffix is intended to demonize the opposing viewpoint even more, essentially to shift the frame from fear out-of-proportion - a potential "rational irrationality" as you guys put it - to something entirely irrational - violence for its own sake. I think this site is good evidence for this interpretation: https://diversitypride.org/misiapledge.html
I think a cleaner use of language would just be the "anti-" prefix, such as in anti-Semitism and (more recently) anti-Blackness and anti-racism.
As a sidenote, note that criterion (3) is inherently transhumanist. For this reason, I believe the medical establishment has always had a certain predisposition (susceptibility?) to promoting gender transition, well before the topic became as prominent in culture as it is today. -
mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 29-Apr-2023 17:06:55 JST
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@hidden @MercurialBlack @gav Here I side with Mercurial. Transphobia and transmisia are the same thing, but those two words will make someone (of the right ideological background) perceive that thing differently. If someone is fearful, we have compassion for them, we may even view their fear as an illness. If someone is hateful, they are a pure enemy. That's the connotational difference I was trying to highlight in my post.
I mean, an extreme example would be slurs. Chinese, Chinaman, Chink all mean the same thing, but I'd use different choices if I wanted to write an academic article or if I wanted to whip people into a rage against tiktok and police stations.
I think the same kind of rhetorical move is apparent in the site I linked originally: https://diversitypride.org/misiapledge.html -
mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 29-Apr-2023 17:06:52 JST
mist
@roboneko @cinerion @gav @hidden @Yukari_Kajiwara @MercurialBlack @rdr
Side comment: I think a key point of that post was separating out "symbols", "language", and "the world." The point being that "symbols" are prior to "language" (which is used to express / communicate them). Maybe the right question is "can language ever come before symbols?" and the answer of course is "yes," because language helps us derive new symbols from old ones. I'm sympathetic to the idea that there is a more basic "picture language" which we use to manipulate symbols, and that the English language doesn't need to intervene in pure thought. But I have to admit that sometimes I arrive at a thought by just juggling English mnemonics around. -
mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 29-Apr-2023 17:06:51 JST
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@rdr @roboneko @cinerion @gav @hidden @Yukari_Kajiwara @MercurialBlack
I'm a bit skeptical of it. -
mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 29-Apr-2023 17:06:44 JST
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@hidden
> claims to be an “urbanist” and proud of it
> wants the city to be accessible in minutes
> doesn’t even enjoy urban materials inside their own cranium
> mfw -
mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 29-Apr-2023 17:06:30 JST
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@MercurialBlack @gav @hidden
Bayesian rationality with bounded computation moment -
mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 29-Apr-2023 17:06:29 JST
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@hidden @MercurialBlack @gav
I’m enjoying this thread. I’ll drop my take once I’m at my computer -
mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 29-Apr-2023 05:37:20 JST
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@roboneko @cinerion @hidden @victor @coolboymew Thanks, these are good pictures. I've seen the wikipedia one but not the first one. The different colors make it a lot clearer.
Last night, hidden made it in blender (!!!) so now we have a video too: https://cawfee.club/notice/AV6JISg01iudmtCNO4
And, fun fact, the arrangement of points in this tiling is what you get when you dump fruit into a pile (see pic). See "sphere packing" or "kepler conjecture" - this is one of the famous examples of a proof in math that can only be done by computer. -
mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 22:04:28 JST
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@hidden @cinerion @coolboymew @victor
rare bugman W (bookmarked) -
mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 22:04:18 JST
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@monsterislandcolonizer @cinerion @hidden @coolboymew
answer is 5, see my earlier post for explanation: https://cawfee.club/notice/AV6CwZOZlXRcWwE8FE -
mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 22:04:17 JST
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@monsterislandcolonizer @cinerion @hidden @coolboymew
^ chad response tbh, everyone else is bloviating -
mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 21:57:43 JST
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@victor @cinerion @hidden @coolboymew This was honestly really good. A world with jolly BBQ zuck would be a better one than ours -
mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 21:57:38 JST
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@cinerion @coolboymew @hidden Many such cases! (Well, teaching skill is rare. But, all of the best teachers I know, don't want to go into teaching. The more experience they have with the school system, the more their initial passion turns to disgust. I guess, from their example, I see firsthand why the education system continues to suck as badly as it does.) And, I'm an alright teacher, but I would never teach pre-uni because of the culture and the rules -
mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 21:57:37 JST
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@cinerion @coolboymew @hidden Private tutoring is lucrative as fuck. You also work flexible hours and the work gets pretty easy once you have built up some notes / resources from tutoring the "standard" classes at least once. I'd highly recommend it, even if it's just a way to tide you over until your next endeavor.
Actually, I have a few acquaintances who basically tutor as their "full time" job, and they pursue their hobbies the rest of the time (or AI risk activism, ugh) -
mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 21:57:36 JST
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@cinerion @coolboymew @hidden This sounds amazing. Fun fact about me, I really love all kinds of preserved foods for some reason. Pickled veggies, smoked meats, nordic-style pickled herring is a favorite of mine. I think I just like strong tastes, especially sour. (We have that in common?) So I think this idea is really fucking cool -
mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 21:57:35 JST
mist
@cinerion @coolboymew @hidden
Yeah I'd definitely say acid is sour in english. Your tomatoes in oil reminds me how I used to eat like one of these jars every week (bamboo shoots in chili oil) because I liked the taste so much. I also went through a lot of kimchi.
I'm into canned fish too, as we once established that I was mercury-poisoning myself. I tried some cheap canned octopus (pic 2) and thought it was pretty good too.
The other obsession of my childhood was Italian-style giardiniera, which I would put on *everything*, from mac-and-cheese to toast. -
mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 13:17:07 JST
mist
@coolboymew @cinerion @hidden @victor
INCREDIBLE EMOJI -
mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 13:16:12 JST
mist
@hidden @cinerion @coolboymew @victor
okay hopefully this clears things up
They're attached at 3 points total, along a triangle. The other pic I got was from an article trying to explain something else -
mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 13:09:30 JST
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@victor @cinerion @hidden @coolboymew
That was the test writers' answer. But see my previous post
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