@dave Yeah. I'm not sure why I acted as though they were separate. Maybe I'm absorbing online anti-Semites' ideas of what it means to be "White" and "Jewish". Then again, if race is a social construct, it's not more false than any other conception.
@ai >when I was a snotty little r/atheism euphoric Popper-worshipping Anglo-brained empiricist And now you're what? Broken and submissive to authority? @hidden@diceynes
@thatguyoverthere You think there are no bad tactics, only bad targets. I disagree. If you think tyranny is acceptable against people who aren't like you but isn't acceptable against people who are like you, then you are fundamentally a hypocrite and I will cheer when the tables are turned. 🔧
@thatguyoverthere They don't say they are literally the same. They say there is something in common with both of them: that they both believe irrational things and should update their beliefs. The difference is one of degree, not of kind. The problem is not that they have the wrong *targets* (creationists instead of just mentally ill people). The problem is that they have the wrong *tactics* (forcing medical interventions on unwilling participants).
@Laird_Dave Telling me to "shut the fuck up" is not going to work. In fact, I'd be very surprised if it worked on anyone but the most weak-minded. Try arguing your case using logic for a change. @risa
@risa I see: - "Bathroom/locker room bans and youth sports bans" (https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/15/politics/anti-transgender-legislation-2021/index.html), not a survival issue. although it may be concerning that governments are getting involved in sports in that way; aren't sports usually regulated/run by nongovernmental bodies? not American btw. - "Bans/restrictions on transgender medical care" (Ibid), a civil liberties issue, but not a survival issue - "Bans on gender-affirming health care for minors" (Ibid) I think is actually a good thing. Children should be protected from sex and sex-adjacent things. - "One Iowa bill requires that parents give written consent for teachers to discuss gender identity while their children are present in the classroom", I don't see how that's bad. Parents should have more control over their own kids education than politicians and teachers that aren't related to them. - "another stipulates that any curriculum that includes gender identity must include “the potential harm and adverse outcomes of social and medical gender interventions.”", an unequivocal good thing if you ask me. Not sure why I would need to explain it. That's all I have energy for. I hope I've covered what you wanted me to respond to. It wasn't easy, since you didn't actually state what your point was.