@LukeAlmighty You can say no to a trade, but a proletarian cannot not work. No work, no wage, no access to commodified goods, no house food, water and more
@LukeAlmighty Plus, no, that's still incorrect. If you have no capital to invest, then you are still forced to work for a wage even in an ideal scenario
@LukeAlmighty Because you completely sleep over the social element. You seem to think that things being as they are means they're as they should for the simple reason that they are
Dude, the guns are already out, and have been for a long time. Just look at how modern private property was enforced with the enclosures and the millions of people shot all over the world. Or even at the state sponsored terrorism in italy to keep out the communist party from the goverment
And I seriously hate people leeching off my hard work, because they believe to have right to my fucking life.
So your in your ideal world you rent your labour power and get paid a fraction of what you produce? Very curious🤔
If they do. Company owners these days sre shareholders who have about 0 skin in the game, who's "passive income" is what you aren't paid
B) a gypsie single mom getting my money because a cop will kill me otherwise.
She's in the list to be sent to work imo. In a planned economy, the incetives are different from a market one, maximizing employment to reduce the avarage work day. Free community kindergardens are also a tipical policy of any socialist country
@LukeAlmighty My boy, you seriously think the shareholders won't make you work more so they get a bigger cut? The more you work, the more value you generate, the more "passive income" they get. Our entire economy is geared towards maximizing profit, with larger and richer buisnesses eating the weak. Even in the remote possibility that they have good heart, they must grow profits, extract more unpaid value, make you work for longer and/or harder
@LukeAlmighty Also, the mode of spending has also changed: while before goverments directly operated these ventures, nowdays they usually pay private companies, which cost more since they can't operate on deficit, and if competition is present, they must grow their profits. Either that or they have to cheap out on expenses, which usually worsens the service
And an even bigger cut goes to your employer, and you previously raised no issue there. Public services need to be funded, and given how in capitalism private companies and capital have a drastic influence over the goverment, they get to choose how it's spent and on what. Adding to that, taxation in the SU and other nations has always been minimal
it still ends up in their pocket.
Not really, expecially the last decades, goverments operate on deficit. Your money is going to pay some shareholder divedend god knows where (again)
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