@che5hire yeah pretty much, if I cared about PVP, I would be on showdown instead of losing my time training all of these pokemon on the absolutely nothing to support the deeper mechanism

The thing is, as far as I'm aware, even the battle frontier is kind of basic. I'm searching for things more in line with how Stadium was, which could be part of the post game. I don't like the battle frontier consecutive battle thing, I want a better formed challenge