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1. veff :trash: (veff@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2024 09:57:03 JST veff :trash:

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

   Religion is such a great tool for discussion-ending clichés and so it's an excellent target for subversion. I can hardly speak to my parents without them bringing up charity or other Christian virtues, bent and twisted to silence any logical solutions to problems.

   God will surely forgive the man who sends himself to hell to save his loved ones. If not, and terrible destruction and violence is our burden to bear, I will smile in the inferno knowing my children will not be slaves and subjects to beasts.
   
   RT: https://poa.st/objects/3f446b6d-dca8-448b-9260-4c065f446818

   • veff :trash: (veff@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2024 09:57:03 JST veff :trash:

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     • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

     @WashedOutGundamPilot I also think there's a larger point to be made about how any religion can be molded to fit values. Nietzsche correctly pointed out that Christianity has always had a lame submissive bend to it, but it just worked for over a thousand years because it was malleable. Now it's been made into a battering ram for equality, but it could be shaped into any number of things as long as there is a change in the priest class

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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2024 10:05:33 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @veff Any social system can be malleable, it is the way it is. What's different today is that the men are defanged. Even within the sacred, hushed halls of the clergy men are chastised for brutalizing evil at every invasion.

     "oh okay, you can be right but you DON'T have to be harsh, too!". People have been pop-culture indoctrinated into a pacifistic ideology because it's easy to trick the brain that way. You don't read an invasion as hostile when it's "poor unarmed refugees", despite the fact that it has the same damaging effects that axe-wielding pillagers would in the long run. We've moved away from male-coded social rules, now it's female. As long as it has the veneer of peace, it's peaceful. It's a lot tougher to navigate as a guy, we tend to bulldoze our way through the argument and "lose" by girl-rules.

     Gotta get better as passive aggression, saying things that seem nice on their face but carry a payload like "I get where you're coming from, and your heart's in the right place, but it just really feels like you're trying to to change the doctrine so it doesn't offend worldly standards, instead of just following the Bible"

     Whereas we give them the full broadside with "okay, that's absolute bullshit, you're leading everyone down to hell if you want to turn the Lord's home into a club for trannies and pedophiles"

   • veff :trash: (veff@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2024 10:14:11 JST veff :trash:

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     • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

     @WashedOutGundamPilot Learning rhetoric/sophistry is a largely undeveloped skill because most guys with our beliefs are also social rejects/autists. It's also step 1, when most of us want to skip to step 14 (making 'camp of the saints' required reading in school instead of 'to kill a mocking bird')

     https://poa.st/@veff/posts/AeRl251CsldbTQ6WjA

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