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1. Dominic 🇪🇺 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦 (riotnrrd@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 17:50:41 JST Dominic 🇪🇺 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦

   • Eugen Rochko

   I see this sort of argument from developers a lot, but they need to understand users’ perspective. One of the things we like about iOS is the increased trust we have that apps won’t do bad things. This trust is also good for developers because users are willing to try out apps much more freely. The alternative is to go back to the bad old days of Windows, where it was best practice just to blow the OS away every 6 months to get rid of accumulated cruft.

   From: @Gargron
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   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 17:50:40 JST Eugen Rochko

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     @riotnrrd I'm an iOS user, not an iOS developer. By all means keep downloading apps from the App Store. Nobody is taking that away. But I shouldn't be forced to go through Apple to execute a binary on a machine I paid very good money for.

   • Dominic 🇪🇺 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦 (riotnrrd@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 17:53:05 JST Dominic 🇪🇺 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦

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     • Eugen Rochko

     @Gargron Yeah, as I said down-thread, a developer mode that allowed sideloading would work for me. The concern would be that if Apple made it too easy, the mechanism would be abused by Meta/Google/Epic/etc to inject their abusive apps. I’d rather err on the side of that protection, even if philosophically I agree with you.

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 17:59:04 JST Eugen Rochko

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     @riotnrrd No, I should not have to sign up for an Apple developer account and pay $99/year to be able to run an app of my choice on my own hardware. Nor should any other company have to pay Apple so that I can run an app I got directly from that company directly on my hardware.

   • Dominic 🇪🇺 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦 (riotnrrd@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 18:01:42 JST Dominic 🇪🇺 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦

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     • Eugen Rochko

     @Gargron There is also a free developer account. I want just enough of a hurdle that my parents or kids can’t be tricked into installing something nefarious.

     And on the latter point, I disagree: especially past the one million user threshold, I think it’s reasonable for Apple to require payment. It may not be how you would like them to monetise their platform, but it’s how they have built their business. As a user, I like how this discourages abusive “freemium” business models.