A great primer on why we have to fix college to fix the economic and political divides in the US. We should make a bachelor's degree part of the standard publicly paid for educational curriculum. https://pca.st/episode/ac71678a-b9b6-4863-897a-9c6cab89baa6
a high school education is a massive improvement for individuals and the society from when most people only had a primary school only education. it was also necessary to have the modern life we established in the 20th century. making sure everyone has a bachelor's will be a similar improvement.
@wjmaggos@black6_@amerika High School doesn't really seem to be helping literacy all that much tbh, and I wonder what level of math people are actually retaining when they graduate. I know a bunch of 20 somethings and in general their math and literary skills are not what I would expect.
did either of you listen to the podcast? everyone is free to go above the minimum. the question is what the minimum should now be, and that obviously involves deeper questions of what should be mandated at the secondary and college level. it changed 100 years ago. a society that tries to ensure everyone can read and do basic math makes for a better workforce and democracy and probably better families too. could that be true for understanding the scientific method and civics?
@wjmaggos I think the greater point is that everyone should be free to pursue the education they desire. Knowledge should be free, and it should be incumbent on an employer to verify that an employee possesses the requisite skills and knowledge for a particular job, instead of relying on a receipt from a college or university as a gatekeeping mechanism.
The truth is: an autodidact with the Internet is vastly superior to the average college graduate who just regurgitates what he heard @amerika
if we gave everyone free college, high school could be more focused on basics and liberal arts. College could be truly targeted to what they want to specialize in and need training for. instead, kids are trying to focus on their path in high school so that they can get the grades and get in and save money on degrees they haven't figured out if they will really like or will provide a job. expensive woke college fucks up HS as a citizenship/adult preparation experience.
@wjmaggos Yes, and when everyone is super, no one will be.
What's the point of everyone having an undergraduate degree? What is the point of everyone having a high school diploma, for that matter? While I can somewhat get behind the idea of secondary education for all, a college degree is nothing more that a receipt showing that someone paid for services rendered, and the sooner society moves away from that paradigm and into one valuing tangible skills, the better. @amerika
@wjmaggos@amerika I've not been in highschool for > 20 years, and I am always learning new things so yeah I know more today than I did 30 some years ago, but I do not think I use much of what I learned in High School on a regular basis (if at all). Perhaps a little bit of the math, but even then I'd say that most of the useful math I know has been learned through personal learning endeavors because of necessity or curiosity more than "education".