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1. Sandra (sandra@idiomdrottning.org)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 23:43:52 JST Sandra

   • Aral Balkan
   • chris
   @chris
   
   You already know I'm against the death penalty.
   
   The fatwās proclaiming death on these caricaturists is wrong. Those fatwās are speech, and an obvious example of how some speech is wrong.
   
   I want a very strong protection for freedom of speech and that includes having very few exceptions, and being very clear about what those exceptions are. I am not onboard with death penalty fatwās nor with the type of Volksverhetzung that often takes the form of these caricatures that the white ingroup produces in order to attempt to bind and subjugate the brown outgroup.
   
   Matthew 7:3. "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?" The white conservatives are making hay as the open and just society dies.
   
   @aral
   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 23:43:51 JST Aral Balkan

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     • chris

     @Sandra @chris But, just so we’re clear, we’re not equating me putting a price on your head and calling for my followers to murder you with someone insulting someone’s imaginary friend in a drawing, right? The former is incitement to hatred and violence. The latter is offensive. You have the right to offend people without being subjected to physical violence or losing your life. I’m assuming we’re all on the same page on that but, still, bears repeating.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 00:29:55 JST Aral Balkan

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     • chris

     @Sandra @chris Yes, well, fuck the Christofascists (and any fascists, really), but, unfortunately, either you make causing offense a crime or you don’t. And, believe me, Erdoğan just can’t wait for it to be crime. (It’s already a crime in Turkey. If you offend Erdoğan, you go to prison. There’s a reason I no longer visit the land I was born in.)

   • Sandra (sandra@idiomdrottning.org)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 00:29:56 JST Sandra

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     • Aral Balkan
     • chris
     @aral
     
     Good that we're both condemning speech acts that are calls to literal violence. 👍🏻
     
     (And our condemnation is of course 900000000000 times stronger against actually executed violence.)
     
     The problem is that the racist crew often attach their persecutions and crusades and ethnic cleansing attempts to insults and caricatures so that any reaction to the racism looks super petty and thin-skinned. So that they can say "OMG you can't even say 'It's OK to be white' for these lib█████". A reverse Trojan horse; the poison razorblade hidden in the flaming poop bag.
     
     This is why the lulz approach is so dangerous, this discourse-killing turkey curse: Any protest against the racism comes across as "why can't these sensitive snowflakes just take a joke?"
     
     Jylland-Posten aren't just goofin' around with someone's imaginary friend—a 2004 (that's one year before the caricatures) report from the European Network Against Racism showed how JP has contributed to the rise of the racist European far right.
     
     https://web.archive.org/web/20060325023310/http://www.enar-eu.org/en/national/Denmark2004_enOK.pdf
     
     @chris
   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 02:01:18 JST Aral Balkan

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     • chris
     • blake shaw 🇵🇸

     @rml Hey Blake, thanks for explaining Islam to an ex-Muslim, I really appreciate it. We need White folks™ to explain things to us because we’re usually rather dim, you see, and our lived experiences under oppressive systems are, of course, immaterial next to the musings of Western folks who Know™.

     (Also, you are conflating respecting the human rights of trans people with obeying the dictates of dogma.)

     Please educate yourself – Islam is privilege: https://ar.al/notes/islam-is-privilege/

     @Sandra @chris

   • blake shaw 🇵🇸 (rml@functional.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 02:01:19 JST blake shaw 🇵🇸

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     • Aral Balkan
     • chris

     @aral @Sandra @chris You don't depict Mohammad for the same reason that you don't dead name trans people. Because violating such a simple request is hate.

     Directing your readers' attention towards wahabbists that form a marginal extreme of Islam (and came to prominence through the buttressing of colonialists) is precisely what Edward Said described as the primary mechanism of Orientalism