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iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:55 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: > new ai art model
> control map mashing
AI videos no longer evoke emotion :blobcatnomouth: the knowledge i will never be able to art and get paid for it is sorta well established by now-
iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:34 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: @newt @aven now who is creating value judgements :blobcatovo: -
💀💀💀 :0080: c̷̨̢̛̲̼̞̞͓̹͚̗̼͓͚͖͒̔̓̃̈̋̂́̏̆̐̐̈́̉͘͜ȑ̴̫͔͂̌̔̆̓͛͗́͐̍̃́̆ÿ̷̤̺̳̖͖͚͈́̄́͌͒͂͊͗̄̔̚p̶̢̧͇̞̯͍͇̤̖͖̙̫̪͋̏̃̃͗̎͜͝t̶͖̉̽̐̇i̴̭̜̼͖̬̽̀͆̃̓̂̚͝ͅc̸̡͙̪͎̫͚̫̘̱͚͔̫̣̣̒̃̋͜͝ 💀💀💀 :verified: (newt@stereophonic.space)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:35 JST 💀💀💀 :0080: c̷̨̢̛̲̼̞̞͓̹͚̗̼͓͚͖͒̔̓̃̈̋̂́̏̆̐̐̈́̉͘͜ȑ̴̫͔͂̌̔̆̓͛͗́͐̍̃́̆ÿ̷̤̺̳̖͖͚͈́̄́͌͒͂͊͗̄̔̚p̶̢̧͇̞̯͍͇̤̖͖̙̫̪͋̏̃̃͗̎͜͝t̶͖̉̽̐̇i̴̭̜̼͖̬̽̀͆̃̓̂̚͝ͅc̸̡͙̪͎̫͚̫̘̱͚͔̫̣̣̒̃̋͜͝ 💀💀💀 :verified: @icedquinn @aven but they’re not equal. You can’t just compare something that has been frowned upon for millennia to something that has been equally encouraged and celebrated. -
iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:36 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: @newt @aven because there never was one. both of you just decided there was some deeper meaning than just equating the pursuit of lucre as prostitution. -
💀💀💀 :0080: c̷̨̢̛̲̼̞̞͓̹͚̗̼͓͚͖͒̔̓̃̈̋̂́̏̆̐̐̈́̉͘͜ȑ̴̫͔͂̌̔̆̓͛͗́͐̍̃́̆ÿ̷̤̺̳̖͖͚͈́̄́͌͒͂͊͗̄̔̚p̶̢̧͇̞̯͍͇̤̖͖̙̫̪͋̏̃̃͗̎͜͝t̶͖̉̽̐̇i̴̭̜̼͖̬̽̀͆̃̓̂̚͝ͅc̸̡͙̪͎̫͚̫̘̱͚͔̫̣̣̒̃̋͜͝ 💀💀💀 :verified: (newt@stereophonic.space)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:37 JST 💀💀💀 :0080: c̷̨̢̛̲̼̞̞͓̹͚̗̼͓͚͖͒̔̓̃̈̋̂́̏̆̐̐̈́̉͘͜ȑ̴̫͔͂̌̔̆̓͛͗́͐̍̃́̆ÿ̷̤̺̳̖͖͚͈́̄́͌͒͂͊͗̄̔̚p̶̢̧͇̞̯͍͇̤̖͖̙̫̪͋̏̃̃͗̎͜͝t̶͖̉̽̐̇i̴̭̜̼͖̬̽̀͆̃̓̂̚͝ͅc̸̡͙̪͎̫͚̫̘̱͚͔̫̣̣̒̃̋͜͝ 💀💀💀 :verified: @icedquinn @aven then I still don’t understand the source of your moral judgment -
iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:39 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: @newt @aven > This has nothing to do with monetary exchange.
it never did -
💀💀💀 :0080: c̷̨̢̛̲̼̞̞͓̹͚̗̼͓͚͖͒̔̓̃̈̋̂́̏̆̐̐̈́̉͘͜ȑ̴̫͔͂̌̔̆̓͛͗́͐̍̃́̆ÿ̷̤̺̳̖͖͚͈́̄́͌͒͂͊͗̄̔̚p̶̢̧͇̞̯͍͇̤̖͖̙̫̪͋̏̃̃͗̎͜͝t̶͖̉̽̐̇i̴̭̜̼͖̬̽̀͆̃̓̂̚͝ͅc̸̡͙̪͎̫͚̫̘̱͚͔̫̣̣̒̃̋͜͝ 💀💀💀 :verified: (newt@stereophonic.space)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:40 JST 💀💀💀 :0080: c̷̨̢̛̲̼̞̞͓̹͚̗̼͓͚͖͒̔̓̃̈̋̂́̏̆̐̐̈́̉͘͜ȑ̴̫͔͂̌̔̆̓͛͗́͐̍̃́̆ÿ̷̤̺̳̖͖͚͈́̄́͌͒͂͊͗̄̔̚p̶̢̧͇̞̯͍͇̤̖͖̙̫̪͋̏̃̃͗̎͜͝t̶͖̉̽̐̇i̴̭̜̼͖̬̽̀͆̃̓̂̚͝ͅc̸̡͙̪͎̫͚̫̘̱͚͔̫̣̣̒̃̋͜͝ 💀💀💀 :verified: @icedquinn @aven oh these modern standards lmao. The reason why prostitution was (and still frowned upon) and why the word whore is an insult is because sex was and still is deemed sacred and only shared with people special to you. Meaning, promiscuity in itself is morally wrong. This has nothing to do with monetary exchange. -
iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:41 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: @newt @aven i mean to an extent with the metaphor a prostitute is exactly just trading sex for money. and then spending half the day standing around trying to find people to do that. (in some models, i really don't care to be corrected about the ethos of modern prostitution practices in the aside to an aside.)
there are values added by pimps, just like companies do provide services and benefits to employees.
i just like removing the veneer people build up that one is "more respectable" than the other. -
iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:42 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: @newt @aven > exchanging services for money
it doesn't, but i don't typically refer to the nicer part of society that way. -
💀💀💀 :0080: c̷̨̢̛̲̼̞̞͓̹͚̗̼͓͚͖͒̔̓̃̈̋̂́̏̆̐̐̈́̉͘͜ȑ̴̫͔͂̌̔̆̓͛͗́͐̍̃́̆ÿ̷̤̺̳̖͖͚͈́̄́͌͒͂͊͗̄̔̚p̶̢̧͇̞̯͍͇̤̖͖̙̫̪͋̏̃̃͗̎͜͝t̶͖̉̽̐̇i̴̭̜̼͖̬̽̀͆̃̓̂̚͝ͅc̸̡͙̪͎̫͚̫̘̱͚͔̫̣̣̒̃̋͜͝ 💀💀💀 :verified: (newt@stereophonic.space)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:43 JST 💀💀💀 :0080: c̷̨̢̛̲̼̞̞͓̹͚̗̼͓͚͖͒̔̓̃̈̋̂́̏̆̐̐̈́̉͘͜ȑ̴̫͔͂̌̔̆̓͛͗́͐̍̃́̆ÿ̷̤̺̳̖͖͚͈́̄́͌͒͂͊͗̄̔̚p̶̢̧͇̞̯͍͇̤̖͖̙̫̪͋̏̃̃͗̎͜͝t̶͖̉̽̐̇i̴̭̜̼͖̬̽̀͆̃̓̂̚͝ͅc̸̡͙̪͎̫͚̫̘̱͚͔̫̣̣̒̃̋͜͝ 💀💀💀 :verified: @icedquinn @aven no. A whore, in general context, is someone who sells his principles and core values for money. If you want to make great stuff while being paid for it, there is no whoring involved whatsoever. Exchanging services for money in general case doesn’t involve corruption. -
iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:44 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: @aven @newt successful professionals are, generally, whores. because business is all about finding the optimal amount of nickel and diming you can get away with. it turns a comfortable casual chat with friends on camera in to a hellhole of 3-level tiered multistreaming with viewer interaction replaced with paid "super chats" and everything about [their] existence is servicing metaphorical cocks for money.
i just enjoy stripping professionals of their copes and pointing out they are just whoring for cash like everyone else. -
iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:45 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: @aven @newt the book is rather specific in that about two weeks of a studio month is spent making arrangements for gallery showings, invitations, courting contracts, general "business" tasks.
about one week is spent painting. -
Aven (aven@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:46 JST Aven @icedquinn @newt
>professional studio
>creating art
>prostitution
What is "prostitution" in this case? And what is "creating art"? If it's a professional studio, then the idea is to make art that others want to buy, frequently pre-defined by the buyer (commission).
Anyone can create art any time they want, but no one is obliged to pay them for it. -
Aven (aven@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:46 JST Aven @icedquinn @newt I ask because of the equating doing work for money with prostitution, because businessmen bad, but why won't people give money for work.
Does that mean all professional artists are prostitutes? Or all professionals generally?
I think you've drunk too much marxist kool-aid, and it's making you needlessly miserable and external-locus-of-control. You're better than this. -
iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:47 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: @newt art business has never been great though, no. there is a book called art and fear that mentions a professional studio spends something like one week a month creating art, with the remaining time dedicated to prostitution.
well they prefer to use corporate terms, but i rather enjoy degrading businessmen and their practice to what it is. -
💀💀💀 :0080: c̷̨̢̛̲̼̞̞͓̹͚̗̼͓͚͖͒̔̓̃̈̋̂́̏̆̐̐̈́̉͘͜ȑ̴̫͔͂̌̔̆̓͛͗́͐̍̃́̆ÿ̷̤̺̳̖͖͚͈́̄́͌͒͂͊͗̄̔̚p̶̢̧͇̞̯͍͇̤̖͖̙̫̪͋̏̃̃͗̎͜͝t̶͖̉̽̐̇i̴̭̜̼͖̬̽̀͆̃̓̂̚͝ͅc̸̡͙̪͎̫͚̫̘̱͚͔̫̣̣̒̃̋͜͝ 💀💀💀 :verified: (newt@stereophonic.space)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:49 JST 💀💀💀 :0080: c̷̨̢̛̲̼̞̞͓̹͚̗̼͓͚͖͒̔̓̃̈̋̂́̏̆̐̐̈́̉͘͜ȑ̴̫͔͂̌̔̆̓͛͗́͐̍̃́̆ÿ̷̤̺̳̖͖͚͈́̄́͌͒͂͊͗̄̔̚p̶̢̧͇̞̯͍͇̤̖͖̙̫̪͋̏̃̃͗̎͜͝t̶͖̉̽̐̇i̴̭̜̼͖̬̽̀͆̃̓̂̚͝ͅc̸̡͙̪͎̫͚̫̘̱͚͔̫̣̣̒̃̋͜͝ 💀💀💀 :verified: @icedquinn digital art, sure. But that isn't so fun, is it? -
iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:49 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: @newt i honestly have no idea what it is.
programmers copy each other all the time, either reverse engineering or literal copying. they're more likely to share the code to be copied in the first place.
artists get their panties in knots if someone even references them too hard.
programmers will make an entire art program and give it away.
artists act insulted if you even broach the topic of having them sketch something for an activity you are running for them -
iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:51 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: @newt a lot of art is copiable too though. -
💀💀💀 :0080: c̷̨̢̛̲̼̞̞͓̹͚̗̼͓͚͖͒̔̓̃̈̋̂́̏̆̐̐̈́̉͘͜ȑ̴̫͔͂̌̔̆̓͛͗́͐̍̃́̆ÿ̷̤̺̳̖͖͚͈́̄́͌͒͂͊͗̄̔̚p̶̢̧͇̞̯͍͇̤̖͖̙̫̪͋̏̃̃͗̎͜͝t̶͖̉̽̐̇i̴̭̜̼͖̬̽̀͆̃̓̂̚͝ͅc̸̡͙̪͎̫͚̫̘̱͚͔̫̣̣̒̃̋͜͝ 💀💀💀 :verified: (newt@stereophonic.space)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:52 JST 💀💀💀 :0080: c̷̨̢̛̲̼̞̞͓̹͚̗̼͓͚͖͒̔̓̃̈̋̂́̏̆̐̐̈́̉͘͜ȑ̴̫͔͂̌̔̆̓͛͗́͐̍̃́̆ÿ̷̤̺̳̖͖͚͈́̄́͌͒͂͊͗̄̔̚p̶̢̧͇̞̯͍͇̤̖͖̙̫̪͋̏̃̃͗̎͜͝t̶͖̉̽̐̇i̴̭̜̼͖̬̽̀͆̃̓̂̚͝ͅc̸̡͙̪͎̫͚̫̘̱͚͔̫̣̣̒̃̋͜͝ 💀💀💀 :verified: @icedquinn because unlike art, code is infinitely copyable. -
iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:53 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: @newt i've never really gotten why programmers tend to want things to be free and artists are all findoms. -
💀💀💀 :0080: c̷̨̢̛̲̼̞̞͓̹͚̗̼͓͚͖͒̔̓̃̈̋̂́̏̆̐̐̈́̉͘͜ȑ̴̫͔͂̌̔̆̓͛͗́͐̍̃́̆ÿ̷̤̺̳̖͖͚͈́̄́͌͒͂͊͗̄̔̚p̶̢̧͇̞̯͍͇̤̖͖̙̫̪͋̏̃̃͗̎͜͝t̶͖̉̽̐̇i̴̭̜̼͖̬̽̀͆̃̓̂̚͝ͅc̸̡͙̪͎̫͚̫̘̱͚͔̫̣̣̒̃̋͜͝ 💀💀💀 :verified: (newt@stereophonic.space)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:16:54 JST 💀💀💀 :0080: c̷̨̢̛̲̼̞̞͓̹͚̗̼͓͚͖͒̔̓̃̈̋̂́̏̆̐̐̈́̉͘͜ȑ̴̫͔͂̌̔̆̓͛͗́͐̍̃́̆ÿ̷̤̺̳̖͖͚͈́̄́͌͒͂͊͗̄̔̚p̶̢̧͇̞̯͍͇̤̖͖̙̫̪͋̏̃̃͗̎͜͝t̶͖̉̽̐̇i̴̭̜̼͖̬̽̀͆̃̓̂̚͝ͅc̸̡͙̪͎̫͚̫̘̱͚͔̫̣̣̒̃̋͜͝ 💀💀💀 :verified: @icedquinn there was almost no way to do art and get paid for it before the AI lol
Except there is, but most artists I know are lazy assholes. I tried to commission several paintings for my living room, offered them ~$500 per piece, and they blew it because something something no inspiration, depressions, etc.
And then there was that time last year when I hired an artist to make Pleroma-tan for Stereophonic, she took the money and never delivered.
I guess, AI is the way here really if I want to have something done. -
💀💀💀 :0080: c̷̨̢̛̲̼̞̞͓̹͚̗̼͓͚͖͒̔̓̃̈̋̂́̏̆̐̐̈́̉͘͜ȑ̴̫͔͂̌̔̆̓͛͗́͐̍̃́̆ÿ̷̤̺̳̖͖͚͈́̄́͌͒͂͊͗̄̔̚p̶̢̧͇̞̯͍͇̤̖͖̙̫̪͋̏̃̃͗̎͜͝t̶͖̉̽̐̇i̴̭̜̼͖̬̽̀͆̃̓̂̚͝ͅc̸̡͙̪͎̫͚̫̘̱͚͔̫̣̣̒̃̋͜͝ 💀💀💀 :verified: (newt@stereophonic.space)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2023 03:18:42 JST 💀💀💀 :0080: c̷̨̢̛̲̼̞̞͓̹͚̗̼͓͚͖͒̔̓̃̈̋̂́̏̆̐̐̈́̉͘͜ȑ̴̫͔͂̌̔̆̓͛͗́͐̍̃́̆ÿ̷̤̺̳̖͖͚͈́̄́͌͒͂͊͗̄̔̚p̶̢̧͇̞̯͍͇̤̖͖̙̫̪͋̏̃̃͗̎͜͝t̶͖̉̽̐̇i̴̭̜̼͖̬̽̀͆̃̓̂̚͝ͅc̸̡͙̪͎̫͚̫̘̱͚͔̫̣̣̒̃̋͜͝ 💀💀💀 :verified: @icedquinn @aven I am a child of my judeo-christian society, and so are you. Prostitution being morally wrong is implied, otherwise you should’ve mentioned that from the beginning.
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