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I feel like I've just been sweating all day and I don't know why.
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@sim high humidity? always makes sweat more noticeable since it can't evaporate as quickly
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@sim well a good workout can also cause your metabolism to increase afterwards for some time too. I imagine a higher metabolism probably comes with some extra cooling requirements.
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@thatguyoverthere Yeah, probably a combination of that and stress. It made more sense when I was working out.
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@sim certain foods are also thermogenic. I don't feed my chickens any corn over summer because when they eat corn it causes a body temp increase. I do feed them corn in the winter though because the temperature increase is useful.
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@thatguyoverthere Could be. I'm not sure how good my metabolism is... but working out definitely builds up an appetite.
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@sim any changes are relative so if you have been exercising more recently you are going to be building muscle which is more expensive than fat to maintain (metabolism increase) and certain types of exercise can cause you to use more oxygen for hours after a workout which is also going to increase metabolism albeit temporarily.
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@thatguyoverthere Now you mention that, I hadn't considered how certain foods increase temperature. It's interesting. I'm glad it helps the chickens stay warmer in the winter.
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@sim sometimes after a workout I'm nauseous because of how hungry I am. It takes a while not immediately after the workout. Exercising actually releases hormones to regulate appetite while working out but afterwards you need to replenish.
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@sim it's a weird thing you might not think about normally, but they actually sell thermogenics for weight loss, not that I recommend it
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@thatguyoverthere Yeah. I think that I felt that... decided to drink more water to help with it. Definitely water during the workout too.
Also, who knew that exercising was so expensive?
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@sim I just meant "expensive" in terms of calories (muscle expends more calories in rest than fat) although I guess when you think about it if you end up increasing your caloric intake needs it does hit the wallet a bit I suppose. Most people eat more food than they can actually use anyway. If anything it might be more costly because you make more conscious decisions to avoid garbage that does nothing to help satiate a real nutritional need that you get when your hunger comes from work instead of boredom.
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@thatguyoverthere Yeah, probably not a great idea to sweat your way to weight loss.
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@sim yeah I think just losing water weight is not real weight loss anyway, but an increased metabolism with dietary restrictions could result in weight loss. I tend to recommend whole foods for things like that though. Incorporating more spicy foods for example since capsaicin is one such thermogenic. I guess it could be a kind of hack if you like spicy foods. Whether or not the amount of metabolic increase is significant enough to warrant such dietary changes is hard to gauge.
I like spicy foods already so I am happy to eat them as much as I can. I know people who can't even handle a little black pepper though so I know it's not for everyone. I think it's more important to find healthy food you enjoy than try and force yourself to eat something that you don't enjoy for a diet so even if it was a really effective weight loss method I don't think it would be one I would go out of my way to recommend to people.
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@thatguyoverthere Yeah, I think this is going to possibly become more expensive than I am used to. Need to find ways to use what I've already gotten maybe. What a time to begin this. It's good to hear that it is more expensive on the calorie front.
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@sim not necessarily. I mean I think you can be pretty thrifty with whole foods if you cook your own meals, and if you are trying to lose weight you don't need to be in a calorie surplus so your needs are reduced (at least while you maintain a deficit). It's just important to try and maintain a little more protein in your diet than a person who is more sedentary because exercise breaks down muscle tissue which will need repair.
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@sim yeah I am an advocate for exercise before food, but I don't know if you can lose more weight that way. At the end of the day it's a matter of how much you move vs how much you eat. I find that I can move better without a bunch of food in my gut which is why I prefer to exercise before eating. I also limit my food intake to a smaller window of time than my waking hours (commonly referred to as intermittent fasting). This is basically an easy way to make it harder to over eat, especially when combined with targets for specific macros. If you have it in your head you need 150g of protein and 40g of fiber, and you only have 10 hours within which you can eat, you will prefer foods that are going to make reaching that goal easier.
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@thatguyoverthere Guess the spicy food I ate earlier in the week wasn't such a bad idea after all. I think you are right about recommending whole foods instead. Things that are nutritional for us.
I did recently hear that you can lose more weight if you exercise first thing in the morning, and then you eat after it. Not sure how easy that would be to do.
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@charliebrownau @sim yeah I think keto based diets are decent. I think "no carbs" is a high bar that few can reach, but limiting starches and sugars is good. I think if you pay attention to fiber and limit carbohydrate based foods to those with higher fiber you can enjoy a little bit of the sugars that might come with. Blackberries are a great example of a keto friendly carbohydrate snack. 1 serving has about 1/4 of a person's fiber needs, and the sugars are an equal portion.
Also I use propane for my stove, but in the summer I'm much more likely to be cooking over a wood/charcoal fire on the grill, and in cooler months I do a lot of smoking.
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@thatguyoverthere @sim Look into Keto and Ketovore
No Carbs
No Sugar
No Starch
No grains
No processed goyslop
Also ditch induction and eletric stove for
Gas/wood
or at least use airfyer or slow cooker
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