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1. djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Saturday, 17-Dec-2022 13:15:45 JST djsumdog

   • Melinda Marks

   I am asking you the question: why should it matter?

   We never talk about fixing the lack of representation of women working on oil rigs. We never talk about the lack of representation of women working on garbage trucks.

   “I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character” -MLKing

   If there was some huge barrier to entry, then we could say, yes it’s good there are more female startup founders. But there’s not a big barrier to entry. If anything, everyone wants more female startup founders, so it’s significantly easier for them to get VC funding (and yes, I’ve seen this happen in startup incubators).

   10 years ago there were big name female CEOs (Carly Fiorina at HP and Denise Morrison of Cambels come to mind), and back then when they made it, it meant something. If anything, it literally means less now due to subsidiaries to meet diversity goals, and well as men playing dressup and calming they represent women in those positions as well.

   There are not a lot of people, men and women, in general who successfully start and maintain their own business. It’s pretty fucking hard stuff. Julia Gilard didn’t make it as a PM, and I don’t fault her. She was a stern bitch, and yet she wasn’t cutthroat enough to survive in Australian politics .. Margarete Thatcher did make it as a PM (and people can’t seem to shut up about it). But who do you think is likely happier in the end?

   Why not appreciate people who make it, no matter who or what they are? What they happen to be born as is meaningless.

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   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Saturday, 17-Dec-2022 13:15:36 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     • Melinda Marks
     Carly was a trashfire too.
   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Saturday, 17-Dec-2022 15:11:26 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     • Melinda Marks
     So the tl;dr is, the Compaq merger, the massive layoffs, the outsourcing, the bad choices at HP (the Agilent spinoff and their eventually spinning off of divisions, the entire Compaq merger, IA64/Integrity), and whatnot were such a shitshow that not only did they pay her to leave, but when they announced she was gone everyone at the company was celebrating. Like office parties and shit instantly over this.
     
     Her tenure sunk her presidential runs, it's that tainted.
   • djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Saturday, 17-Dec-2022 15:11:27 JST djsumdog

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     • Melinda Marks

     How so? I think the last thing I read about her was in The Dictator’s Handbook about the struggle of keeping a company together; but I don’t recall the specific examples.

   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Saturday, 17-Dec-2022 15:20:43 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     • Melinda Marks
     I have an IA64 system. The compilers are literally braindead, especially on Windows since the Windows port was very jank. Because of the high price of used hardware due to OpenVMS, the Linux port fell apart as well on it and has no interest.
     
     Also HP was actually partly responsible for that. No really. HP intended to replace HPPA with it and then Intel worked on it too.
   • djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Saturday, 17-Dec-2022 15:20:44 JST djsumdog

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     • Melinda Marks
     okay .. yes ... this all sounds familiar now. I've read up on some of this.
     
     Side tangent on IA64, that was an evil demon baby for anyone to inherit. Intel engineers pretty much tainted the concept of VLIW architecture forever with that architecture.