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1. BobsonDugnuttHB (bobsondugnutthb@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-Jun-2023 05:14:39 JST BobsonDugnuttHB
   ❗️🇷🇺🇺🇦 Vremievsky ledge
   situation at the end of June 11, 2023
   
   Heavy fighting continues on the Vremievsky ledge . Russian units were forced to retreat to the Makarovka-Urozhaynoye line. Despite the advance of the Russian assault groups to the north and the temporary return of control over Neskuchny , the Russian units failed to gain a foothold.
   
   ▪️Ukrainian formations accuse the Russian side of blowing up a dam across the Wet Yaly River: most likely, the explosion was carried out to slow down the advance of the enemy.
   
   ▪️The settlements of Makarovka and Urozhaynoye are under the control of Russian units: fighting is taking place on the near approaches to settlements.
   
   ▪️To the east, Ukrainian formations attempted to break through Russian positions at the Novodonetskoye-Novomayorskoye line, but were forced to retreat.
   
   🔻Ukrainian formations are advancing in waves. Tactics usually come down to throwing assault units into the forest belt on armored vehicles: a foot offensive as part of squads and platoons with artillery support, and armored vehicles follow the infantry.
   
   We believe that the offensive potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is still far from being exhausted, and in the near future we should expect an increase in the onslaught.
   
   Due to bad weather, the situation on the Vremievsky ledge worsened: the ability to use drones and aviation was reduced. Russian units, leaving their positions in the destroyed frontline villages, were forced to retreat to the next line of defense.
   • BobsonDugnuttHB (bobsondugnutthb@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-Jun-2023 05:14:38 JST BobsonDugnuttHB

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     • Groomschild
     @Groomschild I don't want to declare that it's officially over for Ukraine, since that's still premature and they have a lot more resources to bring to bear, but even with this latest advance it's still just trading the edge of the line of contact back and forth, while the Ukes take 10:1 casualties doing it. Every time the Russians withdraw from a position on the LoC, the Ukrainians eat artillery and bombs the second they occupy it.
     
     It's not a good sign for Ukraine, especially when the Russians have multiple hardened actual lines of defense going back 100km, and the Ukes are having trouble getting within line of sight of the first one.
     
     The ukes may eventually reach the first line of defense, but how are they going to deal with that, if it takes multiple weeks and 30,000+ casualties just to get there?
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-Jun-2023 05:14:38 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Groomschild

     @BobsonDugnuttHB @Groomschild According to vox, victory doesn’t always look like progressing deep into enemy lines

   • Groomschild (groomschild@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-Jun-2023 05:14:39 JST Groomschild

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     @BobsonDugnuttHB Looks like the ukes are making advances but will it be enough is the question