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@Halss
>death penalty for anything less than murder
>unanimous jury no longer required for death sentence
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@toast I mean, the authoritarian descent of the West is obvious at this point, but it's hilarious how the alphabet fags reacted :doge_laugh:
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@SuperSnekFriend @toast @Halss If people don't fear death when they try to steal food from a store, they will just keep doing it until you decide it's either death or their hands
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@Dicer @SuperSnekFriend @Halss @toast Bros, I don't want piracy to have the death penalty. :angery:
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@toast @Halss >death penalty for anything less than murder
But that is in the Constitution itself, regardless of what SCotUS stupidly said in Kennedy v. Louisiana (2007). :gura_what:
I don't understand why that's an issue. The Founding Fathers did not see the death penalty as a threat to liberty.
Regardless of classical liberalism philosophy espoused by the Founders or the severely bastardized version espoused by American ZOG, God demands the death penalty for various non-murder crimes, and removing that option does not make us or the state more merciful than God. :02shrug:
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@SuperSnekFriend @Immahnoob @Halss @toast It's called piracy but it's just copy and pasting files, how could they know you could duplicate things almost how Jesus turned water into wine and gave bread to the hungry
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@Dicer @Immahnoob @Halss @toast It's a joke. :jahy_smug_stare:
What late 1700's people meant by piracy is not what 2000's people mean by piracy.
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@SuperSnekFriend @Dicer @Halss @toast You guys can joke all you want, but I also agree that we shouldn't use the death penalty for anything less than murder. I don't trust the government, this is just going to go the "gay marriage" route. A life for a life makes sense, but quantifying trauma and shit like that? I can't wait for libel/slander to have the death penalty as well, I'm sure there are a few that can't make their payments and have payments in the millions.
I still don't understand why we don't have prisoners just do hard labor for the duration of their stay in prison, I actually don't understand how somehow their stay has to cost more than the average person's expenditures. :shrug:
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@Immahnoob @Dicer @Halss @toast I'm so sorry bro, it's US Law:
"...if any citizen shall commit any piracy or robbery...such offender...shall suffer death. "
:whyMelt: :whyMelt: It's over for us pirate bros! :whyMelt: :whyMelt:
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@Immahnoob @SuperSnekFriend @Dicer @Halss Many prisons have prisoners make stuff like license plates I think. But if by hard labour you mean back breaking shit like mining coal, well I think forcing people to do that is Soviet-tier. And if imprisoning people is profitable, there will be an incentive to do it... Oh wait... :thinkinghrr:
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@SuperSnekFriend @Halss The argument has been made since the 18th century that if you give the death penalty for anything less than murder, you incentivize criminals to commit murder to silence their victims, since if the punishment is the same anyway, why not?
As far as the Bible goes, first I relieve in a secular legal system, so I think it's irrelevant anyway. Render unto God what is God's and render unto Caesar what is Caesar's (Matt. 22:21), Christ's kingdom is not of this world (John 18:36).
I will also point out point out John 8:1-11. The death penalty for crimes in the Bible is an example of Jewish law, and if righteousness came through law then Christ would have died for nothing (Gal. 2:21). So if the death penalty should be executed, that should be secular anyway. Further, Christ did not repay evil with evil, and neither should we (1 Pet. 3:9, Rom. 12:17). He himself was condemned to execution alongside criminals, and that should stop and make us give a second thought to those that we send to this fate.
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@toast @Dicer @Halss @SuperSnekFriend What I believe in is them recouping their expenditure in prison and that's it. :shrug:
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@Immahnoob @Dicer @Halss @SuperSnekFriend I don't know how they're profiting, but they are. BlackRock and other big companies invest in private prisons so there must be some grift there.
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